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Athletic programs, assistant coaches on the chopping block at BCHS

SBDM Members Darryl Dockery, Dennis Robbins, Stacha Murphy, and Rhoda Chism

A proposal  to eliminate seven athletic teams at Butler County High School was the main topic of discussion at yesterday's monthly meeting of the school's site-based decision making council. The programs in jeopardy are golf, tennis, soccer  - both male and female teams - and volleyball.  According to Principal Patrick O'Driscoll, the issue comes down to cutting athletics to save teachers. Specifically, he said the matter boiled down to the question: "How could we be having sports when we're losing academics?" Site-base policy requires the principal to inform and receive approval from the council before any changes are made to athletic programs.

O'Driscoll started off the discussion about the possible dissolution of certain athletic programs by saying, "Everyone should know that we're in the hole big time. We overspent, we are projected to overspend $300,000 every year, we got cut $380,000 . . . so we're about $650,000 in the hole to finish this year." O'Driscoll went on to explain that after factoring in the projected shortfall for next year in addition to what is already owed, the school system will be over $900,000 in debt.

"We were not told how many teaching spots we would be losing, but I thought I would jump out there and start trying to look for any help," said O'Driscoll, "I had this idea, 'How can we be having sports when we're losing academics?'"

O'Driscoll put before the site-based council a proposal that he thinks could help the school avoid losing a teacher and sacrificing academics: he proposed that the school look at cutting several sports programs. Three of the programs O'Driscoll proposed be cut collected a combined four-year average of $3,206 from admissions, while the other four did not collect admissions at all. The proposed programs were boys and girls soccer, volleyball, boys and girls golf, and boys and girls tennis.

Another optional extracurricular activity that may be eliminated is the academic team. Assistant Principal Michael Gruber said of the academic team, "I coached the academic team for 14 years, it was always a spot for me. My daughter was on it this year and I love having her on it, but in reality when you look at numbers and expenses, you're spending that money on 15 kids. It's hard to justify paying stipends and transportation costs when you see so few students involved." He added later, "My hope would be that if we do something like this, we would look at it the next year in the hopes that we could bring these back."

Also included in the proposal was the loss of one assistant coach for each of the remaining sports programs offered at BCHS: football, boys and girls basketball, baseball, softball, track and cross country, and cheerleading.

The remaining sports would be asked to cut their transportation costs in addition to the loss of an assistant. The example O'Driscoll used was the football team. He said that three buses will take the team and sit through an entire game and two will drive home empty. He would propose that three would go and two would come back immediately. The use of school vans was also discussed at length.

Cutting these seven programs, the assistant coaching positions, and the academic team could save the board approximately $46,000. O'Driscoll later added that either volleyball or girls soccer may have to be kept to meet Title IX requirements from the KHSAA. He said that he had been in touch with KHSAA Assistant Commissioner Darren Bilberry on the matter and would know more at a later date.

Another potential avenue for saving money that O'Driscoll has explored is reevaluating section 7 funds. Section 7 money is allocated by the local school district to individual schools/SBDM councils, which then is appropriated to specific programs. Butler County High School receives $35,000 in section 7 money from the board to help pay for general athletics, choir, and band. Currently, the athletics department receives $26,000, choir receives $4,000, and the band receives $5,000. O'Driscoll proposes an increase in the band allocation to $8,000, running the athletics department on around $10,000, while choir receives the same. These changes could free up about $13,000 in section 7 money that could be used to help save a teaching position.

"This is not going to be popular, okay. My first thought is I cannot support this much athletic money if we're cutting teachers jobs," said O'Driscoll. He asked the site-based council to consider his proposal as a road map that could be changed, then he could move forward with meeting with Mr. Howard and finalizing the Title IX issues before the March SBDM meeting.

"I'm going to get beat up over this, but I'm willing to do it for academics and another person's job," said O'Driscoll.

The use of vans, a way to potentially cut the transportation costs of extracurricular programs, was discussed. BCHS boys golf head coach and SBDM member Dennis Robbins pointed out that he loads himself, six boys, and six golf bags into one of the vans and travels to all away matches that way. BCHS music teacher and choir director Darryl Dockery stated that he utilized a van when taking small numbers of students to choir competitions instead of a bus.

"I know what's going to happen, you're going to go through and cut all of this, and then the complaints are going to come in," said Dockery, "Then they will either throw you (O'Driscoll) under the bus, or van, and then they'll go ahead and fund it. Then we get the numbers . . ."

"And then we'll have to cut a teacher or two," added Rhoda Chism, parent representative on the BCHS SBDM council.

Once the school began cutting teachers, O'Driscoll said that would mean losing programs. He said the school was getting graded on program reviews, on college and career readiness and cutting teachers would affect these grades. O'Driscoll said that Butler County is the only county in the area that is ahead on career readiness and losing a teacher would affect our careers program, and that would affect the students who do not attend college. He reiterated that the school is not graded on sports; it is graded on academics.

Several council members questioned when Central Office would start cutting back. One member remarked, "They're paying people who could retire." Another member suggested they receive a "change in environment" with a chance to get back into the classroom for awhile. The members agreed that the money some Central Office employees make is enough to pay for two teachers.

O'Driscoll asked the council if he could move forward with exploring his proposal even more in depth to see how much money can really be saved by eliminating these athletic programs, as well as coaching positions and transportation costs. Chism made a motion to approve and after some discussion, the council unanimously approved that O'Driscoll move forward with the proposal.

Also discussed at the meeting were the approval of the FCCLA trip to the State Meeting in Louisville, the Arts and Humanities Mid-Year Program Review by Dockery, the discussion of earbud/headphones use during school, GRREC Data Analysis Conference Update, and the monthly financial report from Gina Givens.

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Story and photos by Katie Kirby, Beech Tree News.

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Great job Katie on reporting all of the issues and the discussions.
I AM VERY UPSET AND DISTURBED BY THE MOTION TO ELIMINATE CERTAIN SPORTS FROM THE BCHS PROGRAM. MY SON CURRENTLY IS A MEMBER OF THE BCHS GOLF TEAM AND I DO NOT SEE HOW THE SITE BASED COUNCIL CAN RATIONALIZE CUTTING THESE PROGRAMS. MY CHILD HAS DEVOTED MANY YEARS TO THE BCHS GOLF PROGRAM AND TO DO AWAY WITH THE PROGRAM IS WRONG. OUR CHILDREN PARTICIPATE IN EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITIES FOR A REASON AND I DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW YOU CAN "PICK AND CHOOSE" WHICH SPORTS GO AND WHICH SPORTS STAY. THIS IS WRONG! WRONG! WRONG!
Praying that the right decisions will be made by all that are involved in these important issues. JUST REMEMBER THAT WHATEVER HAPPENS,THE DECISIONS SHOULD ALWAYS BE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE STUDENTS. When this takes place, everything else usually ends up benefitting also. As a retired educator, no one ever promised the educators a rose garden or great wealth. This is why I highly emphasize the need to be in constant contact w/our state legislators & the Governor's office. Teachers have one of the best retirement plans in the nation. So, teach & fight for what is right for our students b/c Butler County kids deserve just as much as the other 119 counties in our great Commonwealth. Then the day that you retire, you can truly say that you gave all that you had to the kids! Then sit back & enjoy receiving your monthly annuity check & also enjoy the health benefits that all of the Butler County Education Assoc. & Butler Co. Retired Teachers Association fight for on a regular basis. Right now, is the perfect time to contact our legislators & talk with each of them about these decisions. Rep. C.B. Embry, Jr. responds to every email that he receives. We've recently lost Sen. Mike Wilson due to the Redistricting of the legislators but he was replaced by Sen. Carroll Gibson from Leitchfield. I haven't met him, yet, but was assured that he will listen to teachers just like Rep. Embry & Sen. Mike Wilson. Rep. Embry & Sen. Gibson were both former teachers. Get in there & fight, fight, fight!! Phyllis Tate
It would be good, for once, to think outside the box. For example: --Find ways to cut electricity and operating costs. --Look at changing the school calendar so that perhaps the school is only open 4 days a week. Just go either more days or longer days. --Increase revenue. Does BCHS do any fundraisers? My school raises $300,000 - $400,000 in one night with an event. Not saying BCHS can do that but they can do something. --What is the business community involvement? Open the door to sponsorships. --What about the church community? There are lots of ways to get the community involved which in turn says money. --What about Alumni? Never once have I ever got any request to give back to Butler County. Just no vision nor care what happens after you leave. --Pressure the State for additional funding. Heck, one State dinner by the politicians could fund your entire school year. Where is the world is the lottery money? --How about university money? WKU raises millions and millions. Isn't that a shame. --Grants? Cutting athletics today. Arts are next. Lack of vision and real leadership. That is the problem.
Amen!!
100% agree. Very, very well said.
It is a proven fact that kids that are involved in extracurricular activities do better academically. They also learn many other valuable lessons from playing sports. I agree that if there are cuts that need to be made, they should be made at a level that will not directly affect our children's growth before sending them out in the "real world."
I agree with Christine. I was in sports (basketball, cross-country and track)and I tell you what I had many friends that were out partying, drinking and doing many types of drugs while I was busting my butt in sports. There is no telling how my life would have turned out if my sports wouldn't have been there to keep me occupied. If I would have chosen a different path then I would probably have ended up pregnant, dropped out of school and then been on welfare. This is WRONG in so many ways. This does affect their learning and potentially the rest of their life. Butler County needs to stand up and let the board know how we feel about this. Let me know the time and place and I promise I will be there and anyone that needs a ride I will make sure they come too.
I still don't understand how cutting $46,000 in athletic programs and academic team is going to balance $900,000 in cuts. And if the cuts have to come from athletics, why can't there be percentage cuts across the board instead of totally eliminating certain programs? It is said that the cuts are to keep from cutting a teaching position. Perhaps there are some teachers that should be cut. Have we looked at job performance lately? Or are we still just handing them a paycheck because we "need" them on staff so they can coach some of the more popular sports?
I played on the golf team for many years and other sports,I find this to be so wrong. Although I am not suprised,the community and the school has never supported the sports they are considering to be cut like the other "main" sports or whatever you want to call them. Yeah you dont have to pay admission to get into a golf match, but we should not punish the children that have put time and hard effort that enjoy these sports. How do you pick and choose and keep it equal when we get rid of one and not the others? We should award and support the kids that want to play sports and be involved in these things. Every kid that plays sports at BCHS has to take random drug test and have a good academic standing so why punish these kids when they are working hard and staying out of trouble? I hope another conclusion can be made besides ending these sports.
I wanted to make a correction to Mr. O'Driscoll's comment regarding the Football buses. The Football team takes two regular buses to away games as well as a equipment bus(short bus)that Coach Havens drives, which does not have any seats. The buses DO NOT come back EMPTY. Almost all the players ride the bus back to the school. I have been at every away game. I have personaly watched the boys load the bus to depart and watched them unload at the school.
I am deeply saddened about the proposal to cut the sports listed in the article! My 8th grade son has played soccer for years preparing for high school soccer only to now be informed that it may not be offered because of mismanaged money? How could the budget get this far out of control? I agree with Steve Compton's ideas on ways to raise money above. There has got to be a better solution than to single out the smaller sports. If the smaller sports programs are cut, the students won't even get the opportunity to get a partial sports scholorship in these areas. This will be another loss to our community.
They say they want to cut cost by cutting sport programs. Why don't they start by fixing problems in the school. I know for a fact that the Showers in the boys locker rooms have been leaking for at least two years. A steady stream 24 hours a day. That adds up! This may not put a dent in the money your trying to save, but ever little bit helps. I don't think it's fair that the kids be punished for the miss handling of money.
I agree with Mr. Compton. When I went to school the ball players and cheerleaders rode the same bus. That would cut down on a bus. To me there is ways to cut cost with out cutting the sports out. These asst. coach's are valuable to our programs. I know for football and cheerleading these asst. coach's are a valuable asset. Where does our tax money and lottery money go?
This is really upsetting to know that because of money, my children may not get to do what they love. Soccer or the other sports mentioned may not bring in the "big money", but the children have a right to play what they enjoy. My kids love soccer and we have spent many long hours and a lot of money on this sport. It is not just a sport to some of these children, it is a passion. I like to keep my children involved in extracurricular activities because I believe it helps keeps them out of things that could get them into trouble. My son is very athletic, he runs track, cross country, and plays soccer, I want him to be able to use the gift God gave him. Its sad to think that the only thing that anyone could come up with is to cut certain sports!
Mr. O'Driscoll is smart man, yet he needs to look at the aspect of the academics. What students participating in these sports have poor grades and behavior? I also believe that the students should at least have a say in this/these decisions rather than just having the SBDMC/O'Driscoll taking all the action when deciding the fate of the teams, Though I'm not in favor of the cuts, there is quite a bit of debt and there are also more areas to save in.
No one wants to cut sports programs in our school system, but if it comes down to cutting sports or academics - it must be sports. Both of our girls graduated from Butler County High School; both were actively involved in sports - one played basketball and tennis - one was in band and cheerleading, and we supported them and the programs 100%. They both benefited from these extracurricular activities, but sports is not what enabled them to make those grades and pass those courses in college so that they could graduate and have successful careers. I applaud Mr. O'Driscoll for putting academics first. Academics has to be the priority of any school system.
I think one of the ideas of this proposal was to open up a dialog for discussion in the community. We as a community, like the rest of the state are coming to a crossroads. We are under water by close to 1 million dollars and cuts need to be made. Like in the federal government that has a big three that consume the budget ( social security, medicare, and defense,) In education we have staffing, transportation, and facilities. Staffing at the high school is down to a skeleton crew. When you start cutting staffing now you cut programs. Our vocational teachers and arts teachers are now down to one person in each department. Class rooms in the middle school and elementary are at almost capacity. Each school in the district are going to have to make hard choices this year. I have spent my entire teaching career in Butler County and I owe this community and the school system everything. I do think we need to think outside the box as an earlier post stated but we must realize that inside or outside the box hard choices are going to have to be made that will not please everyone in the community. What can help save this programs? Volunteerism, fund raising, and creativity on how to save these programs and remain Title 9 compliant. I am a SBDM memeber and would be glad to hear your ideas. Contact me a [email protected] I would glad to hear your ideas. I have so many of these kids in class that will be not get these opportunities but I also realize that the classes that will have to be dropped will have consequences in their future in the job market that awaits them after graduation.
I have 3 children in the school system currently.Two of them play in the big three sports and one plays volleyball. The one that plays volleyball her sport is just as important to her as the other sports are to my other children. Besides if we have a 900,00$ short fall I dont see the 46,000$ sports programs are the problem. This is also not just a BCHS problem this a district wide problem and EVERY aspect of our system should be evaluated for possible cuts. One more point if we allow these cuts to be made what is to say that Baseball and Softball wont be next on the chopping block. If we hadn't got the new fields the past year they probably would be considered right now for elimination.One other thing to consider is the impact of losing an assistant coach in each of the programs remaining. This will severely hamper these programs from a competive standpoint especially football.
Ever since Mike Hayes was killed in Iraq, the soccer team has had to fight to keep its team. My daughter had intended to play college soccer until she hurt her knee. Until this injury, she had a chance to play soccer at some colleges, granted they were not your Division I schools. However, it was still a chance to play her favorite sport. It seems to me there will be some students who may lose their ability for a scholarship to the only sport they may be able to play. How can you chose one child's life or another! Because this is what you are doing. If the finances are that bad, then don't cut just some sports, cut them all.
I too have a child in the school system that has been involved in sports since she started school! She has played basketball, currently plays softball and volleyball. I hate to see any of these cut. I have two other children one has since graduated, one is due to graduate this year, one was involved with SUPA, was on the academic team, and both of them have been in NJROTC. There are ways to make these cuts without cutting the sports programs. Why don't we look at some of the Administration positions, Central Office positions, and some of the teachers who have EXTENDED DAYS that equal up to dozens of days a year they can use. If they just cut some of those days, that would save money. Look at some of those positions that aren't really necessary in Central Office. Some of those individuals make A LOT of money, could retire, saving the younger teachers spots, and putting money back into our account for the kids. They could look into 7 period days much like the other school systems in our surrounding counties. Also, as a parent, I have tried to volunteer my time, been involved in fund raisers, ect. There has to be a way we, as a community, can help keep all of our extracuricular activities for our children. In a town that offers ABSOLUTELY NOTHING for kids to do to occupy themselves outside of school, these programs are a MUST.
How much does the school spend on the tennis team? My grandson plays tennis and they use the City park courts which are less than desirable. Also they practice at the education complex where they have half the lighting missing. Why not check other areas first before eliminating sports. How about buses you see parked at grocery stores, doctor offices. The tennis team gets no support except from the families of students on team. They have fund raising and work concessions at basketball games to help support their sport.
I am very upset with cutting these extra-curricular programs just because they do not bring in revenue to the school, I feel the students with academic excellence will benefit so much more by being on the academic team than a basketball or football team. It prepares them for college so much more. My three children have always been in sports as so was I when I attended Butler County schools. Cheerleading parents spent way over a $1000 out of our pockets every year and we fundraise on top of all of this. As a healtcare administrator, we have had to make cuts in our staff to offset cost and you have to cut hours positions and combine jobs at all levels including administrative positions such as the Board of education position not just teachers. You are looking at a lot more cuts than 46,000 you are generating by cutting programs such as academic team, soccer etc. You are looking at cutting whole positions/ worked hours salary etc. you will have to stop thinking of how you cut in the past and try something different it is obvious the past cuts have not worked. Ask your parents that foot a lot of expenses for their childrens extra-curricular activities, we want our kids to be well-rounded that is why we pay so much for our kids to participate. We car pool to events, work fundraisers, concession stands, and so much more. Most of the sports you are talking about cutting other than coach salary you do not provide any other support, we the parents provide the funding not the school budget. So I know the $900,000 will not come from cutting these extra-curricular programs. Back to the drawing board. I would have an outside person/firm with no ties to Butler County look at our the Schools finances and propose cuts to meet budget. You will be amazed at the outcome!


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